Skip to main content

IF NOT TRADITIONALISM, THEN WHAT?

IF NOT TRADITIONALISM, THEN WHAT?
Rise Above Heartless Materialism
Laurence Gonzaga Interviewed by Aaron Kessler


0:00 Introduction 
https://youtu.be/WOvBU8Xc894?si=gN7-05IrwYzpzAwm&t=1

1:55 What is true Catholic culture?
Does the Novus Ordo have a culture?
Spanish Mass culture?
https://youtu.be/WOvBU8Xc894?si=z1x5l4grP_y3fuJ2&t=115

9:25 TLM subcultures: ICK, FSSP, SSPX
Exclusivity
https://youtu.be/WOvBU8Xc894?si=FZcSJldDi4CS-ru4&t=565

13:55 What's the alternative culture to Traditionalism?;
What's "lacking" in the Novus Ordo?;
Is exclusivity a good thing?;
Saying "no" to some things;
The pros and cons of a tight-knit unified culture;
Exclusivity vs inclusivity
https://youtu.be/WOvBU8Xc894?si=DAHo2JePEuVo6yg0&t=835

19:00 Being different;
Why is TLM or Ordinariate culture attractive?;
The subjective experience of religion
https://youtu.be/WOvBU8Xc894?si=ykv9S1sOWN1Zviki&t=1140

22:00 Traditionalism/Dr. Peter Kwasniewski;
The only way forward is to go back;
Is that really the future of Catholicism?
https://youtu.be/WOvBU8Xc894?si=Q9DAPhkl3aYxu_kO&t=1320

23:08 Summorum Pontificum and the challenges of starting new TLMs;
Limited TLM resources
https://youtu.be/WOvBU8Xc894?si=a1QOtaKtn5clifSR&t=1388

26:00 All are welcome; is that the way?;
Establishing parish identity
https://youtu.be/WOvBU8Xc894?si=pGJ-n203tjLRZY3z&t=1560

28:35 The value of exclusivity in Catholic subcultures
https://youtu.be/WOvBU8Xc894?si=q8lltW-0e7XWcM_e&t=1715

30:26 The Eastern Orthodox culture and Father Josiah Trenham
https://youtu.be/WOvBU8Xc894?si=yMiBD-tZN5BZRg6q&t=1826

33:10 The pastor, knowing who you are;
The Anglican Ordinariate, Father Andrew Bartus;
Protestant or small-church culture
https://youtu.be/WOvBU8Xc894?si=_HMG0ko-TksIprmV&t=1990

42:30 A balanced Catholic community;
Personality splits
https://youtu.be/WOvBU8Xc894?si=HgfOx3EzOyZDvHob&t=2550

45:00 Martha and Mary;
Contemplative and active;
Spiritual and corporal works of mercy
https://youtu.be/WOvBU8Xc894?si=CXNxUZV7zLmXIL9e&t=2700

48:50 Using the gifts of the community;
How to engage the world in evangelization
https://youtu.be/WOvBU8Xc894?si=KBjf9C6TQSfSGrXE&t=2930

1:00:00 Evangelism, practice makes perfect;
Evangelization story time
https://youtu.be/WOvBU8Xc894?si=IDqpnKY2XqFq2dLw&t=3600

1:07:40 Where is Catholic culture heading in the next 5 years?;
The shifts in Catholic culture in the last 20 years;
Dissenting Catholic cultures;
Liberals. conservatives, Marian apparitions, separatists
https://youtu.be/WOvBU8Xc894?si=nao8byIYvOGlwLmm&t=4060

1:11:20 Catholic comfort zones, staying within your tribes and looking up to your clerical heroes, Burke, Vigano, Strickland, Schneider, etc;
It's not easy being Catholic, the sacrifices of being Catholic;
Why conservative Catholics were scandalized by the Francis pontificate
https://youtu.be/WOvBU8Xc894?si=6-ZCaj5mre6d_YCk&t=4280

1:16:50 Staying on the outside of the groups;
I need all those ideological groups to draw wisdom from;
If all are in the middle, there is no middle
https://youtu.be/WOvBU8Xc894?si=KXj8cdAU5188liyH&t=4610

1:18:00 Authoritarians of the Left and Right;
Summoning Phillip Campbell for his wisdom
https://youtu.be/WOvBU8Xc894?si=UKOp7OovnjpOO2C4&t=4680

1:21:25 The TFP; Monarchy; the Four revolutions from the philosophy of Plinio Correa de Oliveira
https://youtu.be/WOvBU8Xc894?si=Bs44EA2GX_xwHkqx&t=4885

1:24:45 Closing
https://youtu.be/WOvBU8Xc894?si=-Uz3IDBzP3wA8b-i&t=5085

Popular posts from this blog

As a dog that returneth to his vomit, so is the fool that repeateth his folly: The folly of the Transalpine Redemptorists

As a dog that returneth to his vomit, so is the fool that repeateth his folly. -Proverbs 26:11, DRB Let's start off with what was publicly stated by the Transalpine Redemptorists in 2008. Read how important undisputed communion with Rome is for them... back in 2008. Tuesday, July 01, 2008 Canonical Good Standing 1 July, 2008 Feast of the Precious Blood My dear friends, I am happy to inform you that last June 18th, before Cardinal Castrillon and the members of the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei in Rome, I humbly petitioned the Holy See on my own behalf and on behalf of the monastery council for our priestly suspensions to be lifted. On June 26th I received word that the Holy See had granted our petition. All canonical censures have been lifted. Our community now truly rejoices in undisputed and peaceful posession of Communion with the Holy See because our priests are now in canonical good standing. We are very grateful to our Holy Father Pope Benedict XVI for issuing, last July,...
Read more

SSPX Masses and the Sunday Obligation by John Salza

In the span of just a few days, two well-known Catholics publicly gave what I maintain are erroneous conclusions regarding whether or not SSPX Masses fulfill the Sunday obligation. On September 18, 2024, in an interview with Gene Zannetti, Fr. Chad Ripperger stated that SSPX Masses fulfill the obligation. And on September 21, 2024, in an article by Daniel Payne for Catholic News Agency (about the Carmelite nuns who defected to the SSPX), Jimmy Akin of Catholic Answers is also quoted as suggesting that SSPX Masses fulfill the obligation (because he says Catholics can attend their Masses and receive Holy Communion). As I will demonstrate in this article, both statements fall short of a proper understanding of canon law, which lead to the erroneous conclusion. Note that I already addressed this issue at length in my November 2021 article “Do SSPX Masses Fulfill the Sunday Obligation?” (this previous article also analyzes all the negative judgments by the Holy See regarding SS...
Read more

Lefebvre: Marks of the Church only with SSPX, not with others

Lefebvre: Marks of the Church only with SSPX, not with others "Where is the visible Church? The visible Church is recognized by the signs that she has always given for her visibility: she is One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic. (…) where are the true marks of the Church? Are they more in the official Church (it is not the visible Church, it is the official Church) or with us, in what we represent, what we are? If there is still any visibility of the Church today, it is thanks to you. These signs are no longer found in others. There is no longer any unity of faith among them, yet it is faith that is the basis of all visibility of the Church. Catholicity is one faith in space. Apostolicity is one faith in time and holiness is the fruit of faith, which materializes in souls by the grace of God, by the grace of the sacraments. It is quite wrong to consider ourselves as if we were not part of the visible Church. […] is to make a mistake in equating the official Church with th...
Read more