See how they speak of Catholics in complete union with the Pope and the Catholic Church, and Canon 751

Notice how some "traditionalists" talk to other Catholics.

"Novus Ordites"?

Anyone who has spent any amount of time in SSPX communities, as I have, knows, this is not a one off kind of speak.

It's rather common.

They speak of those who go to the Novus Ordo as if they are some other kind of Catholic.

Well they may be right, ironically, since the SSPX is "not part of the one Catholic Church throughout the world", as Cardinal Burke says.

Extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

Don't forget it, as you are tempted to remain, or join the SSPX communities.

"...schism is the refusal of submission to the Supreme Pontiff or of communion with the members of the Church subject to him."

Canon 751, Code of Canon Law

"At this time, they (SSPX) are not part of the one Roman Catholic Church throughout the world" - Cardinal Raymond Burke

Bookmarked here at timestamp 9:21: https://youtu.be/0TyjRoKUi2w?t=561

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